Happy Halloween!
In the spirit of All Hallows’ Eve (although I don’t have time for trick or treaters), I’ve enjoyed carving pumpkins, having pumpkin in my casserole and munching on pumpkin seeds but was it a horror show for me, investment-wise?
During the recent stock market upheavals, I made a point of not checking my investment numbers (apart from my Dogs of the FTSE portfolio). I didn’t see the point of scaring/torturing myself.
So I was able to ignore all the hysterical news and remain blissfully ignorant…until now!
Firstly, how did I get on with my savings?
I saved 41.2%, which sees my average savings rate going down a little to 44.4%.
It’s all downhill from now until the new year as the spendy months are here, plus I need to pay off my holiday flight.
The above savings includes top ups from £430 matched betting profits (from last month), £78.20 from TopCashback*, £20 lotto winnings and £80.40 affiliate income from OddsMonkey (thank you to all who signed up via my links!).
Shares and Investment Trusts
No new investments, I just topped up existing ones.
Current share/IT portfolio can be found here.
(Entire portfolio here)
Future Fund
Well, I can confirm that the value of my Future Fund was affected negatively by the volatile markets.
It might be easier to show to what extent with a graph:
No need to panic – it’s just sort of back to where it was in June, so no disaster.
I was preparing myself for the worst and as with the recent budget, in the end, not a lot happened.
It would be good to get back over the £150k mark by the end of the year, so let’s hope things pick up over the next month or so. My balance now stands at £145,068 and I will continue to invest as normal.
Dividends and Other Income
The markets tanked yet my dividends continued to roll in regardless:
I received £436.51, which means total dividends so far this year now stands at £2,671.47. It’s touch and go whether I will bag enough in the next two months in order to hit my target – I think I need a big increase in December from last year to hit it but we’ll see. All dividends are reinvested, bundled up with whatever extra capital I invest monthly.
So here’s how things look on the main dividend income graph:
Matched Betting (MB)
My great matched betting run fizzled out – each way betting variance hit me badly and at one point, I was looking at a loss of over £200. I had a decent run on my no-lay accumulators, so slowly pulled things back for a profit this month of a semi-respectable £479.28
For those interested, the profit ratio of actual MB (football and horses only), no-lay accas and no-lay EW betting was 33/51/16, very different from the previous two months.
Total MB profits so far this year stand at £3,983, so bar an absolute disaster over the next two months, I have comfortably achieved my goal – yay! It might even be possible to get to £5k but we’ll see what Lady Luck/Variance has in store for me!
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Goals Update
Still quite a bit behind on my main reading goal – it’s looking tough to achieve.
I should hit the charity one next month so that will be another goal ticked off the list.
Other News
Ms ZiYou’s got a new series on her blog called ‘Let’s meet UK Personal Finance Bloggers‘ – here are my answers to her questionnaire in case you missed them, plus you’ll find some other interviews there too.
Also, you might be interested in some FIRE podcasts over at the UK FI Pod, again run by Ms ZiYou (she’s been busy lately!).
Anyway, I tried to resist turning on the heating but after a week of scraping ice off my windscreen, I couldn’t hold out any longer! Winter’s not my favourite time of year.
Hope you all had a great October!
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Cheers UrbanFIMan!
Looking good
Not looking at the numbers during the month was a great move. Mine looked surprisingly OK too in the end (down a measly £4k). All’s well that ends well Jo
Hey Jo
It’s easier to do that now but I think if I was relying on my investment income, it would have been a different story! Great to hear that it wasn’t too bad with your investments either!
Hi Weenie,
Still a very good savings rate >40%! Whilst not your target it certainly helps in preparing for the future.
Well done on resisting peeking at the turmoil in the market – I did and at times it wasnt very pretty, but like you I just held on and waited – fingers crossed you hit the dividend goal, it looks VERY close indeed!
Cheers,
FiL
Hi FiL
In my early days of investing, I use to check my balances every day – had I still been doing that, I think I would have been a nervous wreck and it was only a small correction!
Yes, things will be tight on the dividends, even after November’s but fingers crossed!
Stocks are on sale! Woo! 🙂
Have you had a correction this big before since you started saving?
Imagine if it was a 50% drop! Frightening 😀 as I’m only a year into aggressively saving, it’s not hit me that badly.
Love your pumpkins! Another awesome meal to try with them is pumpkin mac and cheese, it’s soo good!
Hey SN
Yes, stocks on sale but I’m just going to continue investing as normal and not ‘shop for bargains’.
I think this is the biggest corrections I’ve experienced so far since I started investing and I feel ok about it – not checking my balances every day probably helped! A 50% drop would be terrible but rather now than later!
Yes, I plan on buying some more pumpkin as it’s a good ‘winter’ food! Not a fan of mac and cheese to be honest but I will look for other recipes!
I love your pumpkins Weenie – they are cool. Did they take you a long time to carve?
And your graphs is the perfect demonstration that although market have gone down, it’s not that bad in the scheme of thing – a good perspective there.
As I always say, you are more than welcome to come on the podcast anytime :).
Thanks Ms ZiYou – I think from start to finish, the pumpkins took a couple of hours to do each.
And yes, I thought the graph would show the true picture, that it wasn’t as disastrous as made out in the press and media.
Still thinking about that podcast…. 😉
Those pumpkins look awesome! Got me tempted to try myself.
When you do you no-lay accas, how do you choose them? Just, any that are boosted, or do you make your own?
Cheers Dr FIRE – it was really enjoyable carving them. I might try something more intricate next time.
With the no-lay accas, I never make my own, I use Oddsmonkey’s Acca Builder No Lay tool and only the offers that give a free bet if one leg loses. Occasionally, if I am able to, if 4 legs have won, I may lay the last leg to log in a bit of extra profit. Stakes are max £10 at the moment but I may start increasing the stakes.
I looked at my numbers yesterday, and yep it’s all down! But as you say, no need to panic. Just keep going, slow and steady 🙂
Hi Mindy
Exactly, no need to panic, slow and steady is the way to go! 🙂
Great to see you’re riding out the storm! I must admit I also avoided looking at the numbers too often. It’s great when everything goes up, but during times with high volatility it’s less fun. I simply had to remind myself I am not a day-trader and have a risk tolerance to get through this without losing sleep.
Love your pumpkins!
Thanks Marc and yes, I wouldn’t like to be a day trader, I couldn’t cope, although I’m sure there will be some making a killing somewhere! I’ll let them worry about the day to day stuff while I (and you) look to long game!
no time for trick or treaters? good job my six little horrors aren’t knocking on your door!
I usually make a point of going home late so the little horrors have gone to bed! Or hide in my kitchen, haha!
Another enjoyable post Weenie 🙂 ..Regarding the correction…
“Anytime stocks go down I like it, because as far as I’m concerned I’m a net buyer of stocks. I’ve been buying stocks since I was 11 years old, so when stocks go down it’s good news, just like it’s good news when hamburgers go down or Coca-Cola goes down” – Warren Buffett”
Quoted by Value Investor https://www.ukvalueinvestor.com/2018/10/market-corrections.html/
And I think it was Tim Hale who wrote in Smarter Investing that one should check and rebalance one’s portfolio just once a year. I’m not quite that zen, but a couple of decades of long-term-buy-and-hold investing have taught me a degree of tranquility, after all we had a similar correction in January and the world didn’t end…. Indeed we seem to have regained a lot of ground just this week.
A few random financial points:-
– Have you considered doing surveys as another, albeit small, income stream? I’m signed up with Populous, YouGov and MySurvey, most surveys take 10-20 minutes and there are enough to generate maybe £30/week if you have some spare time and internet.
– Regarding the heating, I switched from E.On to Bulb energy earlier this year, cutting my costs by about £70 a month. I also recommended some friends and family who switched, netting me £50 a time in referral fees (and I don’t have a blog ;-). No connection with the company, just a satisfied customer.
– If you have any Nectar points, Sainsburys are running their occasional double up promotion, where they issue vouchers at 1p per point – double their usual value – valid against certain product types only (groceries are excluded) and up until Nov 18th. Personally we save up our points and use this promotion to cover the Christmas wine bill (‘Taste the Difference’ wines are included)
https://skintdad.co.uk/nectar-double-up-2018/
Cheers!
Hi Phil
I’d forgotten about the correction we had in January, shows how much attention I paid to it! And you’re right, even in just this week, the recovery appears to have started so I’ll see how things look at the end of November.
I used to do online surveys back when it was quite easy to get £2 to £3 a survey. I stopped doing them when I was filling them in only to find that I didn’t ‘qualify’ so would get nothing for my time. I have got a YouGov account, think I was close the £50 threshold payout so might check that one out again. If anything, to get more cash, I would probably ramp up my matched betting as I don’t spend that much time on it – I could probably dedicate more hours at the weekend if I wanted to .
I’m on a fixed agreement with my heating so the cheapest I can get right now – when it runs out next year, I will switch or get another fixed plan.
I collect Nectar points the via my Expedia flights so no idea how many I have and I don’t generally shop at Sainsburys. But I could – thanks for the tip.
I am guilty of looking at mine every day but not because I’m worried I find it interesting how much each bench mark affects my lifestrategy fund overall
A weird things happened as the amount increases they seem less and less real to me. I have about 54k in my isas now (after the recent tumble) and 143k in my pension. Seeing the pension drop over 10k made the isa drop seem small in comparison
Hi FBA
Interesting – I have some Lifestrategy funds (both 60% and 80%) – never thought to really look at them to see how they are affected.
Right now, my figures don’t look real to me – I don’t think they will become real until when I realise that they will be pretty much my only source of income!
Your savings rate is still VERY respectable so you’re winning there. Must admit I haven’t checked our investments, precisely because I don’t want to see a reduction and I know logically it means nothing at this point in time. No point looking at a negative if I don’t need to!
Trick or treaters only knock round our way if you have a pumpkin or other Halloween decorations out front. So we haven’t had any for a couple of years now. Still have to buy a pack of sweets just in case. More sweeties for me!
Cheers Tuppenny.
If I didn’t update my figures every month on the blog, I’d be like you, not check them so often which is very different from when I first started investing and I was checking every day!
I think the kids here try their chances if they see lights on in the house whether there are decorations out front or not!
Hey Weenie,
I have always thought of £150,000 (your target for this year) as a key savings milestone. £150,000 at the 4% rule means six grand a year or £500 per month.
£500 a month (with some significant lifestyle changes) would cover pretty much everything (at a bare bones level) except for housing. So that, plus paying off the mortgage is my first goal. At least as a “if I have this much then no matter what happens I will be able to cover all the basic expenses for me and my family forever”
Beyond that every £75,000 will be material step forward in term of quality of life in FI as that’s another £250 a month. What my number is I don’t know yet…but one step at a time!
Caveman
Hi Caveman
£150k is a key milestone, I certainly never thought I’d be anywhere near this a few years ago!
However, I won’t be following the 4% rule or any other percentage rule – I don’t intend to preserve all my capital, my intention is to slowly deplete it (though hopefully not to nothing) until I can draw down on the state pension and my DB pension.
I’m hoping that the capital which doesn’t get depleted will be able to generate dividend income of c£300, which would cover my bare bones costs, eg utility bills etc.
I do have a number but it keeps changing, depending on whether I want a Lean FIRE or a normal FIRE – need to do more spreadsheet work on this!
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Thanks for the kind words and thanks for stopping by!
How cool are you; “I lost 5k in a month, mwah don’t care, let’s move forward!”
Enjoy your day!
Haha, Berry – thanks! I do care, just keeping calm! I don’t think the storm is over just yet recovery seems to be a bit slow.
Haha great minds think alike with the scary pumpkin pics on our monthly updates (although I must confess I didn’t even make mine though, they were from my niece and nephew!).
Great to see the no lay accas balancing out the ew variance. It’s a great strat! Although wouldn’t work for me as my ew stakes are now too high for it to make much of a dent in. No point plugging away for a whole month on the accas and making £500 when I could lose that in 5 bets 😀
I will trust in “the system” and give myself up fully to lady luck!!
Is that really the biggest correction we’ve had since we started investing? I’m sure there were some big dips early on in my investment career but can’t really remember the specifics. If it was I’m glad it came now when I don’t really even look at my figures apart from updating the monthly spreadsheets just like you have done (I used to check them daily at the start I think! haha!)
Cheers
Haha, yeah, can’t go wrong with pumpkin pics! Great efforts by your niece and nephew!
No lay accas great for me due to my low stakes and good for balancing out EW variance but not with my current run on both – I could be facing a horror double whammy right now – 10 days to turn it around, so need some of that lady luck 🙂
I went back on my figures and my pot was most affected by this correction percentage-wise, but perhaps it wasn’t the biggest correction – those other dips have been forgotten anyway so I guess I can just move on! I know, nightmare if you’re still checking daily!
Hi Weenie,
As seems to be more and more the case I’m horribly behind on my FIRE reading! Oh well, better late than never eh?
A couple of thoughts after reading the comments here:
– Another good survey site is Prolific. I don’t use any other survey sites because, like you, I used to get screened out halfway through and it drove me crazy. I have never been screened out from Prolific. Once I get a survey I know I’m going to get the money for it. There have been some really interesting topics too because it’s used by many different universities to run their research. I reckon I make around £20 a month on average without checking for surveys every day. I’m sure it’s possible to make more than that. You may have seen this post of mine before, where I wrote about Prolific (https://inspiringlifedesign.com/posts/cash-this-week.html)
– Your comment about your FIRE number changing depending on whether you’re going for lean or normal FIRE struck a chord with me. Since I started saving toward FIRE my number has changed several times up and down! It depends on my current mood/thinking. If I’m feeling fed up with work and determined to be more frugal I convince myself I can go for lean FIRE. Then another time, I’ll look at the figures and think “am I crazy?! I’ll need more than that!” I really like Caveman’s way of thinking…breaking down the overall FIRE target into stepping stones. That’s kind of the approach I’m following…
Nice to see that the recent market wobble didn’t fluster you. It’s a good thing because overthe coming year I think we’ll be tested many times over with the dreaded Brexit looming…
Thanks for the heads up, Corinna – I’ll have a look at Prolific some time and see whether it’s something I want to try out.
I need to do a proper deep analysis of my numbers – I think I’ve only really scraped the surface of my plan, a bit dangerous but let’s see how far off I am when I come to look at them properly.
I agree, there are more market crashes on the horizon – good to buying cheap, just doesn’t feel very good though!